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This is Effi Dimitriou's LogBook for MM1
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| Entry #8 (Conclusion) |
[29 Nov 2005|04:12pm] |
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Lecture
In this weeks lecture, we were talking about the last few aspects of bodylanguage such as movement, touch + intimacy and the imitation of other peoples posture and gestures. Then it was all about analysing people communication (verbal and non-verbal) during a meeting, and last but not least [and definitely what interested me the most], how to behave during a job interview. Quite interesting what people suggest, but I think when it comes to it, you don't think about doing all these thing, like choosing where to sit down, where to pust your hands, watching the other and so on. One thing I defintely hold true to it's word is that, before uttering even one word, your bodylanguage will have told the "panel" something about you already. But some improtant part that I was missing in this list of things to be aware of during a job interview, was SMILING!! It makes a huge difference if your face has any other expression [i.e. fright, anxiousness, sadness, pissed off] than happiness and a smile!
It was also said that you usually act during a job interview, but when I went to a job interview once, I tried everything to not act. I wanted to be myself and show that it was my nature to be optimistic and eager to work for them. I personally think that you should not act when interviewed, it just gives them a wrong picture of yourslef. But behave you must, and respect yyou must, but behavior and bodylanguage to me are two very different things!
Practical
- Hiding Behind Our Language
Re-phrase this 'one...' sentence to stress it's self-revealing aspect: "Some people get very annoyed if they have to wait too long, you know?"
Re-phrase this question to stress it's self-revealing aspect: "Why did you have to buy that ugly dress?"
Re-phrase this 'you...' phrase to stess it's self-revealing aspect: "Do you always have to interrupt me?" <-- I think is already very self-revealing
Objectivity
What might be ways to foster matter-of-fact controversy? By not "hiding" behind our language, so by not using 'you', 'one', 'we', 'it' sentences and questions, but to talk about yourself, what you personally think and feel.
Problems with Relationship Aspect
- Interpret thier relationship, how will Mrs. Mayer react?
1. "Mrs. Mayer, I see that the Microsoft file is filed the wrong way; sales matter go into the res folder."
She will know that did something wrong, but won't be hurt because her boss was nice about it, and she will do it better next time.
2. "Mrs. Mayer, let me show you something here; look a this Micrsosoft file, this is a sales matter, and you've filed it in the blue folder; now look, sales matters here at our company go into the red foulder, as I explained you when you first began to work here, remember? Ok, so it's the red folder, will you be able to remember this? Remember this in the future so we can avoid chaos breaking out here!"
She will be hurt, because her boss is treating her like a stupid child.
3. "Mrs. Mayer, come over here please! How long do you work here? Ah, ok, and what is this? Yes? Don't you notice anything strange? Ah! An accidental slip? There are no accidental slips here at our company, do you understand, Mrs. Mayer? Yes? I just hope so!"
Her boss treats her as if she if it's a catastrophe that the file is filed in the wrong folder. Mrs. Mayer will be quite hurt and angry with him, since she's treated unfairly.
4. "Mrs. Mayer! (pause) The Microsoft file is in the blue folder! I've looked until my eyes fell out of thier sockets! And I have so much work to so today! (sigh) Please bring me an Aspirin!"
Mrs. Mayer feels mistreated and angry, because he's behaving as if it's all her fault [just not his] that he feels bad that day.
5. "Mrs. Mayer, I do not enjoy having to tell you, but there was again, ehm, ehm...an inaccuracy...is something wrong with your family? You can talk openly with me, we all have our problems."
She annoyed at the fact that he expects something to be wrong in her family and that he's trying to meddle with her personal life.
6. "Mrs. Mayer, your carefulness is really impressive! Even the wrong Microsoft file here in the blue folder leaves just a very tiny shadow on your character!"
He's being so sarcastic. Mrs. Mayer might get his point, or may actually take him seriously. If she get's his hint, she will be even more hurt than if he would have said it straight to her face.
So, this was the last entry for the Media Management 1 Course Logbook that I had to write for this Semester. I thought that some aspects where really interesting, but repeated an too often and talked about to long, and there was not enough interaction with the students. Otherwise the material was really informative! The practiacals were really fun sometimes, and quite educating. I've learned to pay more attenten to my meat-communication, and the imprtance of talking about ones communication, and being conscious about ones bodylanguage!!
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| Entry #7 |
[21 Nov 2005|02:22am] |
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This last lecture there was a lot of new information, which I personally did not find very stimulating to think about. That´s why this entry will be fairily small. It was all info that was very self explanatory and quite true...most of the time.
One statement I did not agree with was: "The further away a bodypart is from the brain, the more unconscious you are about using it in bodylanguage." --> I really don´t think that it makes any difference how far apart bodyparts are from the brain...quite the nonsene. I´m definitely not more consious of nodding my head than I am of twitching with my leg!
The statement I especially egreed with were:
- "It is easier to lie with words, than it is with bodylanguage."
- and a quote by F.R. Oomkes: "It could be that we have already noticed so many times that body language gives more of a hold-on than words, which makes us automatically doubt the words when they do not correspond to the non-verbal signals." <-- this man was extremely smart!!!
I personally am never consious of my bodylanguage, but I think we all, automatically, are able to analyse other peoples´. May be not all signs, but most of them.
So, ja, as I said, today there´s just not much that I can say about all this, because I think that bodylanguage is something so usual and such a big part of our lives, that most of the people will agree with what have gone thrugh this past lecture.
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| Entry #6 |
[15 Nov 2005|05:09pm] |
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"Meta communication is entirely unnatural and one is ashamed of it; it would equal an evolution if it could be made a habit in the next generation." - Mandel
This time we looked at quite few things:
- Problems with ´self-revelation´
- Hiding behind: a facade/language
- Consequences of ´self-revelation´ techniques
- Results of Authenticity
- Helpful rules to be authentic, but...do we always want to be authentic?
- Problems with factual aspects
I will have to categorize myself in with the ´Problems of self-revelation´ --> anxiety: how do I look in the eyes of my counterpart, what does he/she think of me? how can I impress my counterpart?
This ^^ totally describes me, I think. I hate that I always am consious of how I seem to people, etc., but I just can´t get rid of it...argh!!
Practical
#1 Analyze this conversation:
Teacher: Simon, don´t you think chewing gum is unhealthy?
Simon: No, it´s said that it is good for your teeth.
T: Yes, but sugar causes cavities.
S: But this one is sugar free.
T: Of course it is after chewing it for half-an-hour!
S: But I´m only chewing it for 10 minutes.
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Factual Information: Simon is chewing gum in class.
Plea: I want you to stop chewing gum in my lessons!
Self-Revelation: /
Relationship: I was using my authority and tactfulness to tell you to stop chewing gum in my class you git!
#2 Make up a conversation in pairs, only listening with one ear. - Relationship Ear
A: I wonder if going by car would be better for me, than using public transport everyday.
B: You just don´t want to go by bus with me!
C: Hey, you two just want to cut me out now!!
#3 Make up brief conversations for each ear:
-Factual Ear:
A: I so wanted my mom to buy that other car. She never listens to me!
B: What car did your mother get?
A: An ´alpha romeo´, but I swear, she does not take me seriously.
B: An ´alpha romeo´, I though she wanted to get an BMW?
A: I told her to, but as I said, she never listens to me!
-Relationship Ear:
A: Do you want to go ut for dinner on our sleep over at your house?
B: Why, you don´t like my cooking?
A: No, I never said that...
B: But you thought it!
A: NO! I just thought it might be fun. We haven´t gone out together for ages.
B: And that´s not acceptable is it!? Are you telling me that staying at home with me is boring you!?
A: What´s wrong with you today?! You surfing the ´crimson wave´?
B: Hey, I´m nver that bitchy when I got my period. Just say it, you don´t like spending time with me...
-Self-Revelation Ear:
A: Let´s not go dancing tonight.
B: Why, you think you don´t look good enough to tempt any men?
A: No, I don´t think that. What made you say that.
B: Dunno, it always seems that you´re trying to get a message accross by saying things like that...
-Plea Ear:
A: I wish I had a car.
B: You just want me to tell you that I could take you with me to work everyday. You´re lazy, that´s all.
A: No, I meant what I said! You always get things wrong that I say.
B: Aw, really? You just want me to shut up now, don´t you...
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| Entry #5 |
[12 Nov 2005|02:41pm] |
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The comments and views I found most interesting from the last Lecture:
- Reality check is done, but if done too often, then that might lead to selfish self-fulfillment.
- Phantasies thought up about another persons personal processes during communication, can build cages that impose themselfs between the two people, but may also build bridges that lead to eachother.
- Self-revelation is often done, and very obvious, in "me"- and "you"-messages.
- Psychologists are experts in all this. Not only do they easily analyse communication between their subject it´s friends, families and acquaintances, but also the communication between themselfs and their subject.
Each message also receives feedback, due to interaction. This interaction can result in ´individual peculiarities´ --> ie. shyness - caused by a dominant mother.
There were tons of other things, but they´re too many to list here, but one thing that I do definitely want to mention here is: interpunction - the question of ´ who began?´
I personally think there there are always to sides to a problem, and two causes (the people having the problem) that lead there, and that only both together are ablet o solve it!!!
p.s. I know there´s not a lot I wrote for this week, but there just wasen´t a lot aI could think of to say about it.
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| Entry #4 |
[01 Nov 2005|09:00pm] |
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Til now we´ve talked about the sender and the message...but what about the reciever and the reactions he can take?
Listening with all FOUR ears:
- The ´self-revelation ear´ --> Who is the sender, how does he feel?
- The ´factual ear´ --> How should I understand the factual contact? (interpretation)
- The ´relationship ear´ --> Who does he think I am?
- The ´plea ear´ --> What shall I do, think or feel because of this message?
The things I thought most important in this lecture, and which I personally find the absolute most important ones to be aware of:
- A sender sends certain ´symbols´ that mean certain things to him, which he uses to express himself. But to the receiver these ´symbols´ have a totally different meaning, and therefore he understands (interprets) the message in a totally different way. He might completely misunderstand it´s meaning and intention.
- A message is influenced by the personality of the sender and the receiver.
From the Practical:
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- fact: there´s no more beer in the fridge
- plea: get me a beer!
- self-revelation: i´m lazy / i need help
- relationship: you´re my servant
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- fact: astrid threw her atlas in the corner
- plea: punish her / help me
- self-revelation: i need help, i´m afraid / i´m a nerd
- relatioship: i´m her friend and i want to help her / i want to be appreciated and you´ve got more power that i have
3) I´m sorry, but the instances that came to my mind in which I had ´two souls in my chest´ are too private to share here publicly, but I can say that in my case the indecisiveness caused me to say nothing at all...
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| Entry #3 |
[25 Oct 2005|06:11pm] |
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Most important info that I got from this lecture:
- messages don´t only come verbally, but also by bodylanguage and mimic
- there are congruent (all aspects point in the same direction/mean the same things/give off the same message) and incongruent (if the verbal and non-verbal aspects differ from eachother/are opposites) messages
- the incongurent messages are those that lead to misunderstandings (i.e. A: "How are you?" B: [answers with a sad face] "Allright.")
- incongruent messages wrap a negtive message into a positive content
- to communication, there is the message level and the meta level, which is the side of the message that cannot be controlled
- "Two Hearts in My Chest"
Phew, quite a lot this time. And as it get´s more detailed and more complicated, the harder it is to understand. I, for example, did not really understand the wrapping of a message into a positive content...the example we used did not really explain it to me...--> if you don´t want someone to visit you at all, say: "You should really visit me one of those days."...hmhmhm. That didn´t show the meaning of incongruent message to me at all. I´d rather use this example --> Your friend, who breaks things easily, let´s one of your favorite vases fall to the floor, and you say: "Das hast du aber mal wieder toll gemacht!" ("You really did it this time!")
Hm, since we constantly use incongruent messages most of the time (we wish we would use congruent ones, life would be much easier...but there might also be more pain and hurt)...and nothing really comes to my mind right now that I could write about it, I´ll post this poem about incongurence by Cathrine McDonald:
incongruent information age...
Thoughts imprinted written words fly over the wires new connections ideas unfold stories become known past and future blends new friends made, worlds away and as near as a touch or a look isolated and not at the same time amazing power incongruent information age...
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| Entry #2 |
[18 Oct 2005|01:43pm] |
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Things that I´ve found the most interesting and important from the last lecture of the 17th of October, 2005:
"Think before speaking." <-- a very ture and wise phrase to say, but I would have to compare this ideal to my own behavior, I would HAVE TO admit that I´m one of those people that, instead of just saying what comes to mind, I rather thin to much never come to the point of saying anything. Can´t say that this is any good either, because people might think that I don´t have my own opinion, because i don´t tell it to anyone, which of course is not true, but it can lead to people getting a wrong picture of me and my personality.
"Misunderstanding comes easily." <-- as I have proof everyday, and mostly because we don´t use the correct tone of voice. It creates a tension that is absolutely not necessary!!!
Results of my Team from the Practical:
We had to pair up in twos, later in a team made up of 2-3 pairs. We had to tell a personal life story about a succesful communitation situtation each, and then analyse what where the factors that led to that success...
- Emotional Support
- Preperation
- Bodylanguage
- Appearance
- Openness for Cooperation
How did you feel, telling someone a personal story, did you leave out details? -- No, I was absolutely okay of telling someone else about my experiances. It teaches and helps us both. Details? No, I didn´t leave any out, as far as I remember.
Would it have been easier to look at the negative sides of those experiances? Was it hard to find the factors of sucsess? -- I think I would have find it harder to find the negative sides, well, it depends on the experiance, if it´s positive or negative. And to find the factors of sucess was definitely easier in group.
How did you/the person from your Team feel about telling the outcomes in front of the whole group? -- I was the one from my team that was chosen to present the results in front of the whole. Argh, and I really, really dislike giving presentations and talking in front of a big group of people. So I didn´t want to go up front first, that was also why I went up there later than any of the other people. But in the end it was absolutely fine...but ja, that is how it always is with me :)
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| Communication by Steve Kaye |
[11 Oct 2005|05:54pm] |
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Communication
Two conversations at the same time. One talks about this. The other about that.
And to make it worse the one who says this hears only about this, the other only about that.
Thus, they learn about what they already know. One gains more of this. The other more of that.
Two conversations without communication. Just a reiteration of this and a repetition of that.
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| Entry #1 |
[11 Oct 2005|05:08pm] |
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Things that I thought were the most important from lecture 1, Mon. 10th of October 2005:
Communication --> a tool and a way to help the organization between two people/ a group/ an organisation, a means of sharing information, it´s effectiveness is influenced by how we share.
Interpersonal communication --> is more than just talking to eachother and a mere presentation of ones ideas, a message has factual content, relationship, a way of personal self-revelation and it has the property of appeal; it´s a PLEA to the world and it´s inhabitants.
"You cannot not Communicate" <-- Paraphrasing Paul Watzlawick, and what a ture phrase it is. Something to live by. Everything we do, everything we make tires to convey a massage. Either in itself, or to make people aware of the fact that we, the maker, want to be at the finish line of that communtaion. We want to be found, appreciated, helped or are in need of attention. I´m sorry if this sounds too philosophical, but that´s what I think is the reason why we make the choices that we make. A boy either sparys a grafitti of a person drowning in a black hole on a wall in order to show others what his view of the worlds state is, or to show them that he himslef is in need of help to get out of that hole. Communication is done on pourpose and unconsciously.
Unconsciously for example by bodylanguage:
On the other hand artists such as Viggo Mortensen, who has painted the following painting "Mute", try to convey a message. One we all have to find ourselves:
I think now I´ve gone too astray, and sometimes I hate the fact that I think too abstractly. Makes it harder to express what one is thinking exactly, and for others to follow ones train of thought. Therefore I´ll now finish up this entry by saying that I´m really looking foreward to be ´thinking about thinking´, as Mr. Eisner has proposed in our first lecture. Till next time ;)
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| Intro |
[10 Oct 2005|07:45pm] |
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Since this is my first entry, please bear with me because at the moment i don´t exactly know what is expected of me to write into my Logbook. And to keep things clean and simple, first things first. This is a public journal, so i want to explain why I have started this journal.
I have recently (last week in fact) started my studies at the University of Applied Sciences of Darmstadt in a course called ´Media Production´. In one of the given courses I was aksed by Mr. Eisner to start a Logbook (same thing as a journal) because of several reasons:
- for as to use as a future referance for our final test at the end of the year (and for the further future of course as well ;)
- for him as a means to see what we take from his lectures, and what he can keep the way it is and what to improve
- well, and last but definitely not least (!!) for us to be graded at the end of the WS (winter semester) --> no logbook = no semester grade
So now, on to the next entry...
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